Posts about Podcasts and Streamers
Most of them fall into these two categories:
- Loud unfunny whales that shout at everything and can't play the game properly
- Clickbaiters, doomposters and drama milkers.
There are barely any Genshin streamers that make bearable content, I guess my standards are too high after watching Jerma.
I'm getting more and more annoyed. It's kind of crazy how so many streamers will swear, whine, insult/swear, and (falsley) justify any time they lose a clean, fair 1v1 or 3v3.
Streamer: Gets downed by a team because they're out of position "BRO they're so bad, they're just holding hands, bunch of p$$!es man!"
Streamer: Loses a clean 1v1 "DUDE he's one shot what a terrible player I would have won if I had an R-99, he sucks for real"
*A player uses a sniper "Man what a loser he's griefing our game and cAn'T pUSh uS sO he HaS tO SniPE"
It just sucks I used to watch like 3 or 4 streamers, but they'd die/lose and turn into giant man-babies who can't handle a loss, and can't seem to comprehend that someone can (surprised gasp) actually play better than them.
You mean they're using TEAMWORK!? to WIN the GAME!?!?!? They must be animal abusers man, who would do that.
Wait, this solo is trying to run away from the fight? To stay alive for more RP? Dude I can't believe he hasn't given up on his sad little life yet.
It's like they can't believe that players won't line up to let him kill them.? If they play cover they're a coward, of they use weapon/legend meta they're using a handicap, and if they use good movement they need to get a life..???? Bruh
The utter lack of sportsmanship, grace, and decency is kind of crazy to me. Idk man maybe I'm just in the wrong communities, but the general level of toxicity in the streaming community seems to be only rising..
Streamers are already talking about "only sleeping once during the Gauntlet" to win, and this isn't a good thing. A new way to run events needs to be put forward and promoted that's healthier to people's physical and mental health.
My first idea is to make it "played time on account" instead of "the league runs 24/7 for 10 days". Run the event for 20 days, give players 10 days of play time to achieve their goals. This gives the sweatiest of nerds 12 hours a day to play and would only need to grind the last few days. This isn't the only possibility, just the first one that came to mind.
Whatever the answer, I don't think these kinds of events are healthy and we should seek alternative solutions.
EDIT: Good lord reddit, way too many of you are just ok with people hurting themselves to play a video game. This is about creating a fair and safe way to compete, just like professional sports have regulations.
Discussion: the KFC Glider x Twitch promotion isn't that bad for players. It's the streamers who should be mad.
Expecting to get downvoted to all hell because of this, but here we go. Before you call me a Mihoyo shill or white knight, please first let me explain my reasoning. I have often been first in line to criticize most of their (many) bad decisions, and I'm not writing this post to say "This was a great decision!" either. I think the way Mihoyo is treating their content creators for this is pretty garbage. But most of the complaining around this event I've seen has nothing to do with that, so I want to take a second to address some of the most common complaints I've seen and have a discussion about it.
If you genuinely thought this was ever going to be the case, I'm sorry, but ... that was never going to happen. CN players were not able to get the wings for free, we weren't going to either. If you think this is a PR nightmare now, imagine the PR disaster Mihoyo's head office would have in China if they'd announced that players all over the world would have access to an item they had to pay (and wait hours in line) for. So straight up, that was never on the table. I think most people here are aware of that, but I've seen it crop up, so I thought I'd get it out of the way first.
Good for you, but realistically, this was also never going to happen.
Have you considered what a logistical nightmare it would be for Mihoyo to organise a collab with every different arm of KFC all over the world? Some countries don't even have KFC. Hell, even if you live in the US, the number of participating KFCs would probably be restricted to about five in the big cities. Don't live near to New York, California or Seattle? Too fucking bad, you can't participate. Oh, your city has a participating KFC but they're in lockdown because there's a worldwide pandemic? Too fucking bad, you also can't participate. That's even assuming that the different arms of KFC in each country would even agree to participate. What's in it for them? Genshin isn't popular everywhere. Just because you would rather have the chicken, doesn't mean you'd even be able to get it. And for every person that could, there would be a hundred other people who couldn't.
So if we got the wings at all, they were always going to cost a similar amount of money to what they cost in CN, and they were always going to have to be distributed via an online purchase of some description.
This one actually does sound like a reasonable complaint with a reasonable solution on the surface, but there are actually a number of logistical problems with it.
First off, yes, making it an in-game purchase is possible-- probably. However, it's not likely. Let's consider: if people can redeem it with Genesis Crystals, obviously there will be people redeeming it with crystals saved up, or from purchasing multiple welkins, etc. Once that happens, you again you have the CN playerbase in an uproar and claiming it's unfair. Not to mention, if they make it a set dollar direct-purchase price, people will then complain again that Mihoyo is greedy (true) and that it's unfair to people in countries with a weak currency (also true). Hell, we already see this problem with the Genesis Crystals. Because Mihoyo does not account for how far a dollar goes in each country and just does a straight up conversion, people in countries like Brazil, Mexico etc are all left out in the cold.
But maybe that doesn't apply to you because you live in the US and your dollar is fine and fuck everyone else, am I right? If this is you, I beg you, please find some empathy for others and grow up.
(Side note: I will also take this opportunity to mention that we flat out Do Not Know what was in Mihoyo's contract with KFC China. It's not uncommon for collab contracts to stipulate that the special item can't be gained through certain other means after the collab is over. But that's just a speculation so it's neither here nor there. It's not really a talking point, but I think it's worthwhile to point out that we never know everything that's going on in contracts behind the scenes.)
Second of all, making it a donation to charity, while it seems like a good PR move, also comes with it's own problems. Every country has different laws around donating to charity which is already a logistical hurdle. But let's say that's not a problem. Then, how do you verify that people have donated and allow them to transfer that verification to the game? What system are you putting in place? How much money and manpower do you have to put towards this verification and transfer system that will ultimately net you no profit?
But let's say none of that is a problem either. So then, how does Mihoyo decide which charity to donate to? They can't just say "Donate to whatever charity you want!" because then you run up against the above verification logistics problem-- it all has to be handled by a central system of some kind. They have to pick a charity to partner with. Who do they pick? It has to be someone global, capable of receiving global donations. Okay, let's pick the Red Cross! Oh wait, there's some drama and bad PR surrounding the Red Cross because of their mismanagement in Haiti and known homophobic discrimination in some countries, oopsie! Do you see where I'm going with this? Oh, and let's not mention, you also run into the same problem of donation amounts needing to be standardized across the globe somehow, which will probably once again lead to people in weak dollar countries being left out.
Like, it sure does sound good on the surface, but it's really just not the easy solution it sounds like. But hey! You know what online service does have a platform set up to handle and verify loads of money and is one of the few globally accessible services that has actually somewhat HAS already adjusted their set prices based around the value of a dollar in each individual country and is already partnered with Genshin's internal systems?
OH RIGHT. TWITCH.
But... you'd rather give it directly to Mihoyo who is already swimming in billions of dollars? Or... you'd rather give it to KFC, who is also already swimming in billions of dollars AND contributing to the mass factory farming and harming the environment? Gotta be real fam, I don't understand this one.
If you're someone who'd rather give the money to charity, then why not pick the smallest participating streamer you can find and give the money to them and just consider it a donation? Small streamers are usually really struggling to make bank. This isn't a secret. You only have to look at the Twitch leak from a few weeks ago to know that unless you're in the top 0.010% of streamers, you're barely covering rent.
Maybe you don't care about streamers. Maybe you don't even think they should exist. That's fine. But at the end of the day, picking a small streamer and giving them a $10 donation ensures you're almost certainly giving the money to someone who could really use it and you know exactly where it's going. Isn't that kind of the best of both worlds?
Yeah, okay, this one's valid. Can't argue with that. I haven't really seen this one come up in discussion at all, but if that's the reason you're mad, then you do you! Keep boycotting Amazon. I would also encourage you to also send feedback to Mihoyo explaining that you won't be taking part in this promotion because Twitch is owned by Amazon, and make it very clear that is your reasoning and nothing else. (And I hope it goes without saying, but please do not be an abusive dickhead about it.)
Yeah, the terms of the contract are TERRIBLE. But somehow I don't see people talking about that either! Let's talk about that, hey!
I want to preface this by saying it's not unusual for game companies to specify that content creators cannot stream other games while they have an event/promotion going on. However, they usually offer the streamer some monetary compensation in exchange, in recognition of the lost potential revenue the streamer could be getting from other games and sponsorships. By not offering the participating streamers anything, they have essentially said they are expecting the playerbase to subsidize the difference. THAT is shitty. This is essentially a very risky gamble for any streamer to take, and I don't blame anyone who doesn't take it. It's really only a certain thing if you wouldn't be getting sponsorships or playing other things anyway.
This does set a bad precedent for the way Mihoyo treats their content creators, and I wish more people were talking about it in discussion around the wings, but that's not really what most people are complaining about, funnily enough.
Boycott or complain about the event if you want, but keep in mind what you're really complaining about, and keep your expectations reasonable. Make your displeasure about Amazon and Genshion's treatment of their content creators known if that's what you're mad about. But don't punish small streamers for Mihoyo's bad decisions. Mihoyo won't see a cent either way, so they won't suffer from you abstaining on the wings-- but the small time Twitch streamers who have taken this horrendous deal will.
Now I've said my piece, I hope we can generate some actually sane discussion on the topic.
EDIT: whoops haha forgot paragraphs exist.
EDITx2: doing my best to keep up with replies but I'm flagging and it's bedtime in my country so I'll probably head off. thanks for the discussion! always a fun time.
I feel like this patch went into the game with the goal of giving players like mathil and zizaran a challenge.
This is a huge mistake. These players are not normal. They often spend 600+ hours in each league and have skill far beyond regular players.
Imagine if dark souls creators looked at speed runners and said “people are beating our game in 20 minutes. We need to make it at least 10x harder!” The game would become completely unplayable for any normal person.
I feel afraid that POE could be ruined in the same way. Please just allow the pros to destroy your game so that us regular players can enjoy it.